Taco
16-09-16, 17:16
Start nowej Tibii.
Z czasem, o ile się nie mylę już niedługo, do grania będzie możliwy tylko nowy klient, wtedy też twórcy najpopularniejszych botów takich jak XenoBot czy BBot przestają pracować nad nowymi wersjami, nie wiem jak to wygląda u innych twórców, ale obstawiam, że podobnie.
Reasumując optymistyczna wizja jest taka, że do końca roku w Tibii nie będzie żadnego bota, tak też przewidują DarkstaR i MegaNo0body.
Zapraszam do dyskusji, enjoy
Poniżej cytat jedynego właściciela BBota:
Soon a new version will be released with some minor features, more focused on OTServers.
Sorry guys, this is probably the last official Tibia version to be added to supported list. BBot will not support Tibia 11.0 and future versions, thank you for being part of this community, thank you for teaching me so much, thank you for making this what it is.
I'll keep my eye on BBot stability and keep supporting OTServer users, in the future (date not defined yet), BBot sources will be released.
Oraz założyciela XenoBota, tj. DarkstaRa
Today, Cipsoft finally released a BETA of their new client. We've known this day was coming for almost three years, and that gave me a sufficient amount of time to plan for the impending doom of XenoBot.
Let me repeat myself: the impending doom of XenoBot.
However, it's not just XenoBot. This will be the doom of WindBot, MageBot, iBot, and every other bot. This isn't an update in the way most people think of them; it's completely new architecture. Every memory value, function signature, data structure, and little chunk of assembly code is different. This means that every bot will have to undergo a major overhaul, which can amount to thousands of hours of work, in order to function with the new client. In some cases, such as with XenoBot and likely others, it's safe to say that writing a completely new bot will actually prove easier than adapting the existing bot to the new client.
However, this isn't the end. There's a few ways the release of the client can play out:
The classic client stays around for a year or more while testing is done and bugs are ironed out of the new client.
Cipsoft pulls the trigger and kills the classic client within a few months and makes the move to the new client mandatory,
Here's how each scenario will play out from the perspective of the bot community:
Everything stays how it is, and bots keep updating for the classic client. In parallel, bot developers work on new bots for the new client, and plan to release them when the old client is dead.
We're left without bots for a while while bot developers work on new bots for the new client.
Clearly, the first scenario is what we want to happen. Either way, though, here's what you can expect from XenoBot:
I will continue to update, improve, and support the bot until the classic client breathes it's dying breath.
Once the classic client is dead, XenoBot will live on and be supported in the world of OT servers for years to come.
When the day comes that the demand for XenoBot is too low to for me to keep up maintenance, I'll:
Create a stand-alone version of the bot that can be used by anyone, anywhere, for free.
Release the source code to the bot so that the public can learn from the code and, in some cases, ridicule the terrible coding decisions I've made.
Take the forums offline and leave up a minimalist website with download, usage, and compilation instructions.
I don't see the above happening for a few more years, though, so rest assured we'll be around for a while.
Now, depending on how everything plays out and how insurmountable of a bitch the new client is, I may or may not be making a new bot for Tibia. At this point in time, I honestly am not sure. But, if I did, it wouldn't be XenoBot. It would be a fresh new bot that takes into account all of the learning and growing I've done over the 8 years that I've spent on XenoBot. If and when that day comes, I'll make sure everyone knows about it. But, right now, with no clue how everything will play out, what I'll be doing in life when the classic client dies, or how much demand there will be for a new bot, I really cannot give a definitive answer.
No matter how the next few months or years unfold, there's one thing I can say with certainty: it's been a pleasure. I started this bot when I was 15, and I made it for fun. It was my first project in C++. Over the years, you guys, the community, turned it into the monster it is today. You've pushed me to better myself and my software, to try new things, and to write code I never dreamed I could in the past. Turning this hobby into a business took me from a homeless high-school dropout living in a car to a successful C++ engineer with a bright career, a nearly published book, and a whole hell of a lot more experience than I'd have gotten otherwise. You're my customers, but you're also my friends and my fellow Tibians, and I wouldn't have gotten here without you. My life was made forever different by your support, and I thank you. Stick around and let's see how we can weather this storm together.
//DarkstaR
Słyszałem, że WindBot planuje kontynuować swoją działalność, ale nie wiadomo, czy się to powiedzie.
Z czasem, o ile się nie mylę już niedługo, do grania będzie możliwy tylko nowy klient, wtedy też twórcy najpopularniejszych botów takich jak XenoBot czy BBot przestają pracować nad nowymi wersjami, nie wiem jak to wygląda u innych twórców, ale obstawiam, że podobnie.
Reasumując optymistyczna wizja jest taka, że do końca roku w Tibii nie będzie żadnego bota, tak też przewidują DarkstaR i MegaNo0body.
Zapraszam do dyskusji, enjoy
Poniżej cytat jedynego właściciela BBota:
Soon a new version will be released with some minor features, more focused on OTServers.
Sorry guys, this is probably the last official Tibia version to be added to supported list. BBot will not support Tibia 11.0 and future versions, thank you for being part of this community, thank you for teaching me so much, thank you for making this what it is.
I'll keep my eye on BBot stability and keep supporting OTServer users, in the future (date not defined yet), BBot sources will be released.
Oraz założyciela XenoBota, tj. DarkstaRa
Today, Cipsoft finally released a BETA of their new client. We've known this day was coming for almost three years, and that gave me a sufficient amount of time to plan for the impending doom of XenoBot.
Let me repeat myself: the impending doom of XenoBot.
However, it's not just XenoBot. This will be the doom of WindBot, MageBot, iBot, and every other bot. This isn't an update in the way most people think of them; it's completely new architecture. Every memory value, function signature, data structure, and little chunk of assembly code is different. This means that every bot will have to undergo a major overhaul, which can amount to thousands of hours of work, in order to function with the new client. In some cases, such as with XenoBot and likely others, it's safe to say that writing a completely new bot will actually prove easier than adapting the existing bot to the new client.
However, this isn't the end. There's a few ways the release of the client can play out:
The classic client stays around for a year or more while testing is done and bugs are ironed out of the new client.
Cipsoft pulls the trigger and kills the classic client within a few months and makes the move to the new client mandatory,
Here's how each scenario will play out from the perspective of the bot community:
Everything stays how it is, and bots keep updating for the classic client. In parallel, bot developers work on new bots for the new client, and plan to release them when the old client is dead.
We're left without bots for a while while bot developers work on new bots for the new client.
Clearly, the first scenario is what we want to happen. Either way, though, here's what you can expect from XenoBot:
I will continue to update, improve, and support the bot until the classic client breathes it's dying breath.
Once the classic client is dead, XenoBot will live on and be supported in the world of OT servers for years to come.
When the day comes that the demand for XenoBot is too low to for me to keep up maintenance, I'll:
Create a stand-alone version of the bot that can be used by anyone, anywhere, for free.
Release the source code to the bot so that the public can learn from the code and, in some cases, ridicule the terrible coding decisions I've made.
Take the forums offline and leave up a minimalist website with download, usage, and compilation instructions.
I don't see the above happening for a few more years, though, so rest assured we'll be around for a while.
Now, depending on how everything plays out and how insurmountable of a bitch the new client is, I may or may not be making a new bot for Tibia. At this point in time, I honestly am not sure. But, if I did, it wouldn't be XenoBot. It would be a fresh new bot that takes into account all of the learning and growing I've done over the 8 years that I've spent on XenoBot. If and when that day comes, I'll make sure everyone knows about it. But, right now, with no clue how everything will play out, what I'll be doing in life when the classic client dies, or how much demand there will be for a new bot, I really cannot give a definitive answer.
No matter how the next few months or years unfold, there's one thing I can say with certainty: it's been a pleasure. I started this bot when I was 15, and I made it for fun. It was my first project in C++. Over the years, you guys, the community, turned it into the monster it is today. You've pushed me to better myself and my software, to try new things, and to write code I never dreamed I could in the past. Turning this hobby into a business took me from a homeless high-school dropout living in a car to a successful C++ engineer with a bright career, a nearly published book, and a whole hell of a lot more experience than I'd have gotten otherwise. You're my customers, but you're also my friends and my fellow Tibians, and I wouldn't have gotten here without you. My life was made forever different by your support, and I thank you. Stick around and let's see how we can weather this storm together.
//DarkstaR
Słyszałem, że WindBot planuje kontynuować swoją działalność, ale nie wiadomo, czy się to powiedzie.